Where do I support or even defend what erotica1 does

Do you understand that there's a middle ground between the lynch mob and unconditional support?

It didnt happen in the video game.

It happened outside of it, in "real life".

The "Bonus Room" incident happens outside of the game.

Here's one. Sokhar is responsible for the Malaysian flight that was lost. Trust those air traffic controllers with your life. Trust Erotica with your isk.


Erotica for CSM!!!

There is more to it than that.

288. Thats the number of people participating in this thread last I looked at the stats. That's not even a majority of the Eve players logged into Eve right now.

http://themittani.com/features/alod-go-back-wow

Should we also ban the people behind this?

Holy crap this thread is fast...


Anyway,



You're right. Giving some poor sap a chance to save his tackeld ship by joining you and singing I'm A Little Teapot is nothing new.

And nothing I take issue with.

Inviting same sap onto your TS and goading them for two hours about it until they snap? Yeah, I'll take issue with that.

I have no issues with Erotica1's in game actions - cunning and ruthless as they are. I actually admire the ingenuity and genius he puts into fleecing people.

Dragging people onto an external server, humiliating them for 2 hours and then publishing it for lols is okay? Really?.

CCP can only act within their control. As their game and their community are essential for this event to have occurred it is IMO up to them to use what control they have to make it known that this level of greifing/emergent gameplay is considered unacceptable.

Either that or they should come out and say "Yay Erotica! Wooooooo! Way to go, that was awesome!" At least we'd know where we stand.




Yes. Yes it would. Why? Because CCP can fully investigate, correctly attribute blame for any transgressions and administer appropriate sanctions.



No - that's different. That was an in game scam perpetrated by in game means. Congratulations on the big score for them. As above, this is reviewable by CCP as it stays within their sphere of control. Had there been any use of 'N' words, death threats or 'cruel and unusual' humiliation (e.g. for a prolonged time with no material purpose) then I would expect CCP to be able to examine those chat logs and take appropriate action against any involved (which they do.)


For me, this is about how CCP need to codify that there is a standard of conduct (there is one in the EULA/TOS) and that, should external factors beyond their control be used to breach that conduct, then sanctions within their control (bans, reversals etc) can and will be administered.

Yaknow, after 150+ pages, all hope of effective communication is effectively dead. We're at the "dead horse beating" and "mental ************" cycle of posting.

Gotta be kidding me, now some guy sits next to me in the library and is passed out snoring.

Well, Im flying around high sec, asking people to say NO to cyber-bullying and online predators.

Thank god for new interceptors.

Half of empire - done.

Deliberately engaging in actions to slow down or otherwise disrupt server performance *is* a breach of EULA/ToS.

How about we make internet lawyering be against the EULA?

The feedback in this thread is very much appreciated, and we've been watching it since it was first posted.

While we can appreciate that tensions are high, please remember to keep within the forum rules when posting.

We'll have more information for you guys in the coming days.

TO THE 300 PAGES.


full of bullshit, minchbaggery and doucheness

Translation: "I have nothing else of value to add to this discussion and will now resort to trolling. Gotcha! I was trolling all along!"

+1

Sorry, I forgot to specify.

They are his words in the voice comms he is claiming to paraphrase my words from.

In all seriousness, I would like to see some figures of boosted subscription numbers from cpp, because, and I tell you this with a straight eye, this publicity is fantastic for them.

Just to inject some factual information:

1) CCP have taken notice of the the issue.
2) So have the CSM.
3) I personally I am very content with the direction the resultant discussion took. All my concerns were dealt with, and the CSM has a unified position.

You may not be able to (or want to) answer this, but I'm curious how this issue came to csm attention. Was this brought up by CCP, or was it player driven?

I could.

have you ever tried slamming a revolving door?

there are things that are impossible, that is one of them.

Challenge: Try to add something new to 300+ page thread.

hmmm

I have had enough of the slippery slope, I want to go the other way . . . we have a mountain to climb, all of us in Eve

I want Eve to be a better game, every day a bit better than the last.

Now you may expect some pithy carebear stuff about banning scamming or ganking or the like . . . no. That is part of the game same as trumping an ace or forking a king and rook are parts of other games. The game is a combat focus and I accept that the combat can be on many levels UNTIL it gets personal. I shot your ship, somebody took your sov. All fine.

Now if it gets to threatening you, your family, your pets. WAAAY over the line.

Problem is that the line moves for each person, each case. Call one guy names and he laughs it off. Use the same name or derogatory term on another and you have again found the crossing of the line.

HTFU? Why? Why do we have to close our eyes and allow the game to get worse? Why can we not turn around and start climbing? Oh we may have to cut some dead weight that is holding us back but look up, look ahead.

climb

oh an don't forget to vote

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